JD Profiles: A Recap

Law BooksWe’ve heard some feedback that our readers love the JD Profiles but they almost wish the profiles came out less frequently so each profile would get more attention. They mentioned that this isn’t the type of stuff you hear about in law school and there’s only so much time to read in a given day.

So, dear Readers, thank you! We’re listening. Every so often, we’ll return to our archives and remind you what you missed along the way.

JD Profiles: Matt Emmer, Writer, Editor, and Former Communications Attorney

Our first profile is about Matthew Emmer, J.D. turned writer and editor. Matt’s experience in media dates back more than 25 years, including stints at CNN and the Federal Communications Commission. After law school, he worked as a communications lawyer/lobbyist in DC, mainly representing cable companies. He stayed at the same firm throughout his legal career, first as an associate, then as a partner.

JD Profiles: Gyi Tsakalakis, Executive Director, AttorneySync

Today, we are profiling Gyi Tsakalakis, a former Michigan attorney who is taking a break from legal practice to help attorneys build their professional reputations online.  After practicing at a small firm in the suburbs of Detroit, Gyi decided to follow his entrepreneurial instinct and started AttorneySync with a friend from undergrad.  AttorneySync helps law firms build their online presence.

JD Profiles: Kevin Noonan, PhD, Patent Attorney, McDonnell Boehnen Hulbert & Berghoff LLP

Kevin Noonan, Ph.D., is a partner at McDonnell Boehnen Hulbert & Berghoff LLP, an intellectual property boutique with offices in Chicago and Washington State. With a PhD in Molecular Biology from Princeton University, Kevin specializes on biotechnology clients, including hot topics such as gene cloning and gene patenting. Kevin also co-founded the blog Patent Docs, which he manages with Donald Zuhn, Jr. Ph.D., his colleague at MBHB. Kevin talks to us about how a cab driver in New York City decides to become a patent attorney and how teaching and blogging about biotechnology patent law keeps him updated with the current issues affecting his clients.

JD Profiles: Nicole Gesher, Mediator and Owner, Gesher Mediation

Nicole Gesher is a San Francisco based mediator and attorney. She founded Gesher Mediation in February of 2010, where she happily helps resolve conflicts for her clients throughout the Bay Area. While relatively new to the ADR scene (she’s not even 30 years old!), Gesher tied for 2nd place in the Individual Mediator/Arbitrator category in the Recorder’s Best Poll (San Francisco based Legal newspaper – results published 12/6) (PDF). She is currently a panelist for the Bar Association of San Francisco, and the Contra Costa County Superior Court. She is also a volunteer mediator for Community Boards, a local non-profit.

JD Profiles: Megan M. McKeon, Marketing Director, McDonnell Boehnen Hulbert & Berghoff LLP

Megan M. McKeon worked her way through the evening J.D. program at The John Marshall School of Law and graduated in 2004. By day, she worked as a Marketing Magician for Schiff Hardin, an Am Law 200 firm, where she assisted with the firms marketing and recruiting efforts, including handling media relations, drafting external and internal communications, and promoting firm-hosted events. Rather than use her law degree to practice law on a daily basis, Megan continued to work in the marketing department of law firms. Eventually, Megan returned to school and achieved her M.B.A. in Marketing Management and Leadership and Change Management from DePaul University’s Charles H. Kellstadt Graduate School of Business. Today, she applies her legal and business background as Marketing Director for McDonnell Boehnen Hulbert & Berghoff.

JD Profiles: Richard Russeth, Vice President + General Counsel, Leprino Foods Company

Richard Russeth has worked in-house at various multi-national companies in the food industry since his graduation from the University of Minnesota Law School in 1982. In his roles as Assistant General Counsel and General Counsel, his clients may ask him questions relating to employment, intellectual property, or international tax law on any given day. Rather than focusing on one area of the law, Richard has become a rare entity – a self-proclaimed generalist. The Last Generalist talks with us once again about his career path, networking philosophies, technology, and the implications of the Food Safety Modernization Act for FDA lawyers.

JD Profiles: Philip Guzman, Director of Public Service Programs, North Carolina Central University School of Law

Philip Guzman worked in government and private practice before he became the Director of Public Service Programs at North Carolina Central University School of Law. He talks to us about his day-to-day responsibilities in the career services office as well as his career path to his ideal job or, as he calls it, “The Persistent Dream.” (Published in NALP Bulletin, Vol.22, September 2010.)

JD Profiles: Matt Podolnick, Litigation Associate, Aaronson, Rappaport, Feinstein, + Deutsch, LLP

Matt Podolnick graduated from an Ivy League law school. Like many of his classmates, he summered at a high-end litigation boutique in New York and accepted a job there post-graduation. After two years, he decided to head to a medical malpractice firm where he’d get more hands-on experience. He tells us why he never doubts taking a 40% salary cut and why he’s hesitant to want to be Superman.

JD Profiles: Susan Cartier Liebel, Owner, Solo Practice University

Susan Cartier Liebel worked in advertising then sales for ten (10) years before she decided to go to law school. As a law student, she realized there were hardly any resources for anyone who wanted to start their own law practice or learn the business side of running a law practice. She took the initiative, sought out mentors from her clinics and network of contacts, and opened her own law firm with friends from law school shortly after she graduated.  Since then, Susan has successfully practiced as a solo/small firm founder. Based on her own experiences, she started to teach others how to do the same. She served as an adjunct professor at Quinnipiac University’s School of Law and then opened her own consulting firm. About two years ago, Susan brought the idea to a larger scale and started Solo Practice University, the ‘practice of law’ school. Susan talks about her journey and the void SPU fills in legal education.

Lessons from #LawJobChat: @richard_russeth on Landing In-House Counsel Jobs

On August 26, 2010, we hosted our third #LawJobChat, a chat on Twitter that takes place the last Thursday of each month from 9 – 10 pm Eastern. We welcomed our guest host, Richard Russeth.  I’ve pasted the full transcript below.

About Richard

Richard Russeth (@richard_russeth) serves as Vice President and General Counsel for Leprino Foods.  Directly after law school, he went in-house serving as Vice President and Assistant General Counsel for The Pillsbury Company.  Since then, he’s continued to work in general counsel positions for major corporations or their subsidiaries.   He offers his advice about moving in-house and what in-house lawyers need to know.  He also shares with us the benefits of being The Last Generalist.

5 Takeaway Tweets

  • richard_russeth: GENERALIST credentials are helpful in going in-house. SEC experience is amazingly helpful.
  • richard_russeth: Try to get an internship with a company after 1L – then firm after 2L.
  • richard_russeth: I think transferable skills are most important. Also many corps hire their outside counsel when they are impressed! case
  • richard_russeth: Early on I think salaries are about 70% of private practice. But get close to parity at about 7-10 years.
  • richard_russeth: Not all boards are created equal. Avoid “general” boards. Stick to reputable. Don’t “overexpose”. Desperate is bad.

I’d also recommend Amanda’s post that highlights the important points that Richard covered.

Full Transcript


1:00 am
aellislegal: Welcome to the 3rd #LawJobChat! Our topic tonight is finding in-house law jobs and our guest co-host is @richard_russeth. #lawjobchat
1:01 am aellislegal: Just a friendly reminder that I’ll start the discussion with some questions. I’ll assign a # to them – Q1, Q2, etc. #lawjobchat
1:01 am aellislegal: Please include the question number in your subsequent questions/replies/etc. Helps when reading transcript from chat. #lawjobchat
1:02 am aellislegal: To get started, I’ll let @richard_russeth introduce himself! #lawjobchat
1:02 am richard_russeth: @aellislegal Glad to be here and thanks for inviting! #lawjobchat
1:03 am mjsq: Thanks for joining us, @richard_russeth! #lawjobchat
1:03 am richard_russeth: @aellislegal I’m GC at Leprino Foods. Have been practicing for 28 yrs. Everyone of them in-house. #lawjobchat
1:04 am aellislegal: Q1: how many yrs experience does an atty need before looking for in-house positions? #lawjobchat
1:06 am aellislegal: Q1 cont: or, how easy is it to go in-house immediately after law school like you did? #lawjobchat
1:06 am richard_russeth: @aellislegal I think it depends on the position they are seeking in-house. #lawjobchat
1:07 am richard_russeth: Q1: But I think at a minimum one should have 5 years in private practice before trying to go in-house. #lawjobchat
1:08 am richard_russeth: Q1: I think I was pretty unusual in my career path. Very few go straight to in-house. It works if its a large corp. #lawjobchat
1:08 am aellislegal: Q1 cont: any particular type position that typically requires less experience? more experience? #lawjobchat
1:09 am richard_russeth: Q1: I was lucky to find a large company like The Pillsbury Company with a GC willing to take a chance! #lawjobchat
1:09 am richard_russeth: Q1: I think specialized roles such as IP are more demanding of experience. But positions in general contract work less so. #lawjobchat
1:10 am aellislegal: Q2: Assume a 5th year atty begins an in-house search. Is there a particular time of the calendar yr that’s best to look? #lawjobchat
1:11 am richard_russeth: Q1: credentials are helpful in going in-house. SEC experience is amazingly helpful. #lawjobchat
1:11 am aellislegal: Q2 cont: for example, does in-house hiring slow during particular months? #lawjobchat
1:11 am t10nbaum: Q2: What would you say is the most important thing to do in law school if you want to end up as GC one day? Moot, Journal, etc.? #lawjobchat
1:12 am richard_russeth: Q1: GENERALIST credentials are helpful in going in-house. SEC experience is amazingly helpful. #lawjobchat
1:12 am richard_russeth: Q2: I don’t think there is a special time of year anymore. This used to be true. Its more dictated the economy. #lawjobchat
1:13 am richard_russeth: Q2: That said, fourth quarter is a bad quarter in which to look. #lawjobchat
1:13 am squirrelpants: How can one go from a staff attorney position to an in-house one? #lawjobchat
1:13 am richard_russeth: Q2: As for law school, I think the broader your course load the better. Don’t over specialize. #lawjobchat
1:14 am richard_russeth: @squirrelpants Not sure I get the “staff” vs. “in-house” #lawjobchat
1:14 am aellislegal: Q3: good question RT @squirrelpants: How can one go from a staff attorney position to an in-house one? #lawjobchat
1:14 am richard_russeth: Q2: Try to get an internship with a company after 1L – then firm after 2L. #lawjobchat
1:15 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth I think he’s referring to being a staff attorney in a law firm, but will let @squirrelpantsconfirm #lawjobchat
1:16 am aellislegal: Q4: How does your company hire in-house lawyers? recruiters, company website, job boards, social media, etc? #lawjobchat
1:16 am richard_russeth: Q3: I think transferable skills are most important. Also many corps hire their outside counsel when they are impressed! #lawjobchat
1:16 am richard_russeth: Q3: For example, my predecessor was hired out of private practice where he represented our company #lawjobchat
1:17 am aellislegal: Advice to law students looking to go in-house: RT @richard_russeth Try to get internship w/company after 1L – then firm after 2L #lawjobchat
1:17 am richard_russeth: Q4: rely a great deal on networks and recruiters. Interestingly company’s make the mistake of using executive recruiters. #lawjobchat
1:17 am t10nbaum: Q4: being as that GC work is for a company, is there a business bground required? Or do lawyers from any background have a shot? #lawjobchat
1:18 am richard_russeth: Q2: My company hires a 1L each summer! We like the new ideas and the opportunity to introduce folks to in-house practice #lawjobchat
1:18 am t10nbaum: RT @aellislegal: Advice to law students looking to go in-house: RT @richard_russeth Try to get internship w/company after 1L – then firm after 2L #lawjobchat
1:19 am squirrelpants: Q3: Yeah, from a staff attorney at a law firm to in-house counsel #lawjobchat
1:19 am richard_russeth: Q4: Business background helpful but not essential. I do think in-house need to have an aptitude for business. #lawjobchat
1:20 am aellislegal: Q5: What skills do you look for? For ex, do in-house lawyers have diff daily responsibilities (from firm lawyers) that you seek? #lawjobchat
1:20 am mpsever: @aellislegal Just took the bar. Waiting on results. All jobs say they want 3-5 yrs experience. OK. where’s that come from? #lawjobchat
1:20 am richard_russeth: Q3: I don’t think status in the firm is what drives hiring at the company. Fit on expertise and cultural fit are important #lawjobchat
1:21 am richard_russeth: Q5: 3-5. We all want experience in-house because usually in-house is not big enough to devote much time to training. #lawjobchat
1:22 am richard_russeth: Q5: in-house is about providing practical answers not memos #lawjobchat
1:22 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth “@mpsever Just took the bar. All jobs say they want 3-5 yrs experience. where’s that come from?” #lawjobchat
1:23 am richard_russeth: Q5: I haven’t written an “opinion” in many many years. Face to face helping the business succeed is the role of in-house #lawjobchat
1:23 am aellislegal: @mpsever I assume you’re referring to firm and in-house job-postings. I’ll defer to @richard_russeth re in-house #lawjobchat
1:24 am richard_russeth: Q5: The need to be able to interact with business folks is critical. As is need to provide answers in real time at the meeting. #lawjobchat
1:24 am aellislegal: @mpsever Re firm jobs, remember most jobs aren’t advertised. Market your experience to firms. Target smaller firms that don’t #lawjobchat
1:24 am richard_russeth: I’m guessing 3-5 is in-house criteria. I think its usually closer to 5. #lawjobchat
1:24 am t10nbaum: Q6: You say your job is to help the business succeed, what is your daily schedule like? #lawjobchat
1:25 am DWesterberg: Son=2yr Law S: Worked at AnheiserBusch GC office1.5yrs prior to Law School, at civil Lit law firm past yr. Strong resume? #lawjobchat
1:25 am aellislegal: @mpsever (cont) Target smaller firms that may need junior attys. Volunteer w/legal aid or bar groups to get experience #lawjobchat
1:26 am aellislegal: Q7: How can a litigator position herself to move to an in-house position? #lawjobchat
1:26 am richard_russeth: Today: pension issues, mexican tariff issues, employment law issues, global supply contract and mtg with Linkedin rep #lawjobchat
1:28 am richard_russeth: Q7: Some businesses need in-house litigators e.g., pharma But most firms farm it out. So the ability to manage lit is top. #lawjobchat
1:28 am t10nbaum: good to know #linkedin is making its way to the GC office. It’s everywhere! #lawjobchat
1:28 am richard_russeth: @DWesterberg I think these are very good points on a CV and the AB connection is top. #lawjobchat
1:28 am richard_russeth: @t10nbaum and companies in general are really using Linkedin as a tool to find folks. #lawjobchat
1:29 am aellislegal: Q7 follow up: @richard_russeth any particular type companies litigators should target (more likely to hire 4 lit mgmt)? avoid? #lawjobchat
1:29 am richard_russeth: #linkedin is so key and network building from 1L forward. You never know who will end up where. #lawjobchat
1:30 am mjsq: @richard_russeth, to clarify, companies using linkedin to find outside litigators or to find GCs? #lawjobchat
1:30 am richard_russeth: Q7: Fun ? I’d do a westlaw search and see who’s drowning in lit! But also consumer intensive not B2B are more likely #lawjobchat
1:30 am aellislegal: LAW STUDENTS: @richard_russeth linkedin is so key and network building from 1L forward. You never know who will end up where. #lawjobchat
1:31 am richard_russeth: I think they are using linkedin across the spectrum but I’m not sure its reached the C-Suite yet. #lawjobchat
1:31 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth re Q7, I like the Westlaw search response!! #lawjobchat
1:31 am DWesterberg: Thank you RT @richard_russeth: @DWesterberg I think these are very good points on a CV and the AB connection is top. #lawjobchat
1:32 am aellislegal: Q8: Can you recommend job boards/websites helpful 4 attys seeking in-house jobs? #lawjobchat
1:33 am stone239: My background in accounting/finance helps tremendously as GC for RE Developer Q4: GC…is there a business bground required? #lawjobchat
1:33 am t10nbaum: @richard_russeth I sure hope so. Thanks to @aellislegal i’ve been working on my profile. Im a 2nd year law student #lawjobchat
1:33 am richard_russeth: Q8: I’ve looked for a job 3 times in my career and job boards are increasingly important. The ACC is tops! #lawjobchat
1:33 am t10nbaum: RT @aellislegal: LAW STUDENTS: @richard_russeth linkedin is so key and network building from 1L forward. You never know who will end up where. #lawjobchat
1:34 am richard_russeth: Q8: Not all boards are created equal. Avoid “general” boards. Stick to reputable. Don’t “overexpose”. Desperate is bad. #lawjobchat
1:34 am richard_russeth: NO Monster.com. Period. #lawjobchat
1:35 am aellislegal: Q9: how do in-house salaries compare 2 salaries @ BigLaw? What % salary reduction can BigLaw associate expect 2 move in-house? #lawjobchat
1:35 am aellislegal: RT @richard_russeth: NO Monster.com. Period. #lawjobchat
1:36 am richard_russeth: Q9: Early on I think salaries are about 70% of private practice. But get close to parity at about 7-10 years. #lawjobchat
1:36 am mjsq: Very true! RT @richard_russeth NO Monster.com. Period. #lawjobchat
1:36 am t10nbaum: RT @aellislegal: RT @richard_russeth: NO Monster.com. Period. #lawjobchat
1:36 am richard_russeth: Q8: You are not going to get rich going in-house, on the other hand you will have weekends free more often than not. #lawjobchat
1:37 am richard_russeth: Q8: In-house focuses on company performance so bonuses are tied to that. 30% is typical. #lawjobchat
1:37 am aellislegal: Q9 cont: how is comp structure diff from law firms? higher bonus opp, lower base? bonus tied to company performance? #lawjobchat
1:37 am aellislegal: @mjsq funny that we both RTd Richard’s commend re Monster! #lawjobchat
1:38 am richard_russeth: Q9: Base tends to be lower. Bonuses can range across the spectrum. Median is about 30% I think. #lawjobchat
1:38 am richard_russeth: Q9: If a company lists a in-house job on Monster, you don’t want to work there. #lawjobchat
1:38 am aellislegal: Q10: how does in-house hiring/recruiting process differ from firms? less formal? more interviews? slower/longer process? #lawjobchat
1:39 am aellislegal: RT @richard_russeth: Q9: If a company lists a in-house job on Monster, you dont want to work there. #lawjobchat
1:39 am stone239: weigh quality of life outside biglaw v lower salary RT @aellislegal Q9: how do in-house salaries compare 2 salaries @ BigLaw? #lawjobchat
1:39 am richard_russeth: Q10: I think the process can be much slower because you are an expense not a profit center in-house. #lawjobchat
1:40 am t10nbaum: RT @richard_russeth: Q9: If a company lists a in-house job on Monster, you don’t want to work there. #lawjobchat
1:40 am DavidCohenEsq: So true. Creative problem solving is a must. “@richard_russeth: Q5: in-house is about providing practical answers not memos #lawjobchat
1:40 am richard_russeth: Quality of life and interesting practice are big reasons to go in-house #lawjobchat
1:40 am jcasalmir: RT @richard_russeth: Q8: I’ve looked for a job 3 times in my career and job boards are increasingly important. The ACC is tops! #lawjobchat
1:40 am aellislegal: RT @stone239: My background in accounting/finance helps tremendously as GC for RE Developer #lawjobchat
1:41 am richard_russeth: Lots of responsibility early on in-house. Seeing a project from beginning to end and not just the paper. Impact outcomes! #lawjobchat
1:42 am aellislegal: Q11 any other adv to going in-house besides quality of life, interesting practice? #lawjobchat
1:42 am richard_russeth: @aellislegal @stone239 Absolutely finance can be a good background #lawjobchat
1:42 am stone239: Amen! RT @richard_russeth Quality of life and interesting practice are big reasons to go in-house #lawjobchat
1:42 am t10nbaum: RT @richard_russeth: Lots of responsibility early on in-house. Seeing a project from beginning to end and not just the paper. Impact outcomes! #lawjobchat
1:43 am aellislegal: Q11 related: Any disadvantages to going in-house? #lawjobchat
1:43 am richard_russeth: Q11: Instead of answering to a BigPartner you r part of business team making it happen. #lawjobchat
1:43 am lawyerkm: how should law firms connect with GCs? #lawjobchat
1:44 am richard_russeth: Q11: Disadvantages: you won’t get rich with some exceptions. It can be hard to transition back to private practice… #lawjobchat
1:44 am jcasalmir: 3-5 years =shorthand for “I can provide at least an initial “take” on clients’ question while on the phone with them.” #lawjobchat
1:44 am aellislegal: Good question! RT @lawyerkm: how should law firms connect with GCs? #lawjobchat
1:46 am richard_russeth: I’m a fan of the slow sell myself. Demonstrate worth. Provide solutions. Don’t “sell.” You’re not a car dealer. #lawjobchat
1:46 am richard_russeth: @jcasalmir #truth #lawjobchat
1:46 am t10nbaum: RT @richard_russeth: I’m a fan of the slow sell myself. Demonstrate worth. Provide solutions. Don’t “sell.” You’re not a car dealer. #lawjobchat
1:46 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth re transitioning from in-house to private practice, I was going to ask how easy it is to make the transition? #lawjobchat
1:47 am richard_russeth: Big fan of free seminars as way to get to know your firm. One hour. Lunch or breakfast. Webinar! #lawjobchat
1:47 am DavidCohenEsq: I connect w many law firms at local ACC events. @aellislegal Good question! RT @lawyerkm: how should law firms connect with GCs?#lawjobchat
1:47 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth Is it easier for certain types of in-house counsel to transition into private practice? #lawjobchat
1:47 am richard_russeth: Since I have never “transitioned” I don’t have first hand, but the longer in-house the tougher I think #lawjobchat
1:47 am aellislegal: LAWYERS: RT @richard_russeth: Big fan of free seminars as way to get to know your firm. One hour. Lunch or breakfast. Webinar! #lawjobchat
1:48 am richard_russeth: I think litigators and IP folks have a much easier time of transitioning back to private practice #lawjobchat
1:48 am jcasalmir: Q1: in contrast to @richard_russeth and @DavidCohenEsq I went in-house after 2 yrs govt. + 3 private practice. #lawjobchat
1:48 am reneefishman: @aellislegal #lawjobchat more than just not knowing where people will end up; you never know who they will meet along the way who can help u
1:48 am aellislegal: RT @DavidCohenEsq: I connect w many law firms at local ACC events. RT @lawyerkm: how should law firms connect with GCs? #lawjobchat
1:48 am richard_russeth: @DavidCohenEsq I like the ACC events as well. #lawjobchat
1:50 am changesq: RT @richard_russeth: Q8: You are not going to get rich going in-house, on the other hand you will have weekends free more often than not. #lawjobchat
1:51 am t10nbaum: RT @richard_russeth: Q8: You are not going to get rich going in-house, on the other hand you will have weekends free more often than not. #lawjobchat
1:51 am t10nbaum: RT @reneefishman: @aellislegal #lawjobchat more than just not knowing where people will end up; you never know who they will meet along the way who can help u
1:51 am reneefishman: @aellislegal re #lawjobchat Q8: When I was practicing I found best in-house jobs came thru connections, recruiters & co’s law firms
1:51 am richard_russeth: To prep to be a GC someday I tried to practice in every conceivable field of law for at least a bit for the 1st ten years #lawjobchat
1:52 am t10nbaum: Can law students go to ACC events? #lawjobchat
1:52 am richard_russeth: A generalist with a strong SEC practice would be a killer combo for in-house public company #lawjobchat
1:52 am mjsq: Q12. In yr Rainmaking post, you say lawyers who spend time on social media should spend time on follow-up. Tips? #lawjobchat
1:53 am richard_russeth: I’m afraid I don’t know how the ACC and students work? It would be a clever idea in my book. #lawjobchat
1:53 am aellislegal: Provide 1 tip to junior associates in their 1st or 2nd yr of practice who want to go in-house in their 5th yr or so #lawjobchat
1:53 am stone239: For me, the sheer volume of issues. A GC really is a generalist (cont) Q: Any disadvantages to in-house? #lawjobchat
1:53 am aellislegal: RT @t10nbaum: Can law students go to ACC events? #lawjobchat
1:53 am TechSavvyLaw: RT @richard_russeth To prep to be a GC someday I tried to practice in every conceivable field of law… for the 1st 10 years #lawJobchat
1:53 am stone239: #lawjobchat certain issues require specialized knowledge from outside counsel
1:54 am richard_russeth: Q12: If you put it out there, be willing to spend time, for free, talking to people who are interested. the hours will follow. #lawjobchat
1:54 am richard_russeth: RT @stone239: #lawjobchat certain issues require specialized knowledge from outside counsel // very true. No law dept knows everything.
1:55 am aellislegal: @eicdocket may be able to answer this question or point u in right direction RT @t10nbaum: Can law students go to ACC events? #lawjobchat
1:55 am mjsq: Q13. You blog about how companies should pick GC, are these same Qs associates should ask themselves if they want to be a GC? #lawjobchat
1:55 am changesq: Took our legal interns to as many ACC events as they were allowed @richard_russeth @t10nbaum: Can law students go to ACC events? #lawjobchat
1:56 am richard_russeth: Q13: I think that post applies in lots of fields not just law but yes I think they are worth applying as an associate. #lawjobchat
1:56 am richard_russeth: @changesq thnks for the clarification #lawjobchat
1:57 am t10nbaum: I live in NY and am a full time student. Any events in NYC or LI are an attractive option. Please forward any info my way #lawjobchat
1:59 am DavidCohenEsq: I bring my interns as a learning & networking opportunity. “@t10nbaum: Can law students go to ACC events? #lawjobchat
2:00 am aellislegal: Final Q: what about using Twitter to build relationships? Would u hire an in-house lawyer after developing relationship on here? #lawjobchat
2:00 am richard_russeth: 1Ls – broaden your horizons – make yourself interesting to work with – watch #ted talks. #lawjobchat
2:00 am DavidCohenEsq: If you want to attend, call your local chapter administrator & ask if you can. “@t10nbaum: Can law students go to ACC events? #lawjobchat
2:01 am mjsq: One more blog Q, Q14. Your post ‘top 10 rules for job search success’ = A+ Any specific rules for in-house job search success? #lawjobchat
2:01 am t10nbaum: Or intern? @aellislegal #lawjobchat
2:01 am changesq: RT @richard_russeth: 1Ls – broaden your horizons – make yourself interesting to work with – watch #tedtalks. #lawjobchat
2:02 am richard_russeth: Final Q: I think twitter great place to find out about people. Their temperments and so on. Real time. So yes. It’s a start! #lawjobchat
2:02 am t10nbaum: RT @richard_russeth: 1Ls – broaden your horizons – make yourself interesting to work with – watch #tedtalks. #lawjobchat
2:02 am jcasalmir: 1. get a full understanding of an in-demand practice area. 2. demonstrate practical understanding of client’s biz needs. #lawjobchat
2:02 am reneefishman: @aellislegal #lawjobchat Q11: in- house can get monotonous, w/same type of work or projects & not much variety
2:03 am mjsq: RT @richard_russeth I think twitter great place to find out about people. Their temperments… Real time. So yes. It’s a start! #lawjobchat
2:03 am richard_russeth: Q11: I have never found in-house to be monotonous. Crazy sometimes but not monotonous. #lawjobchat
2:03 am richard_russeth: I think Top 10 rules are universal. #lawjobchat
2:04 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth THANK YOU 4 co-hosting!! Fabulous insight. I’ll post chat transcript tonight and summary over the wkd. #lawjobchat
2:04 am mjsq: @richard_russeth I agree. :-) #lawjobchat
2:04 am mjsq: Yes, thank you so much @richard_russeth for your insights. #lawjobchat
2:05 am richard_russeth: Thanks for having me. Lots of fun! Good luck to all the job seekers! #lawjobchat
2:05 am aellislegal: @richard_russeth Keep the discussion rolling if u have time and people have questions. this just ends official #LawJobChat hour #lawjobchat
2:06 am richard_russeth: @aellislegal Happy to stay on another 15 minutes! #lawjobchat
2:07 am aellislegal: Woo hoo!! Continue to ask questions if you wish RT @richard_russeth: @aellislegal Happy to stay on another 15 minutes! #lawjobchat
2:08 am jcasalmir: Q11: Even w/in my discrete practice area (advertising law), it NEVER gets monotonous. Hectic, nuts, crazy–yes (but I love it). #lawjobchat
2:09 am richard_russeth: @jcasalmir I suppose in a really big dept there could be some monotony but just hasn’t been my experience. #lawjobchat
2:09 am BriHoffman: Sorry I missed #lawjobchat tonight, interesting stuff, especially since I just became intern w/ in-house/cco of major investment company!
2:10 am BriHoffman: I will try to catch it next time! #lawjobchat
2:10 am richard_russeth: @BriHoffman I bet we’d learn a lot from your situation!! #lawjobchat
2:10 am richard_russeth: @BriHoffman Sounds like a very interesting position. #lawjobchat
2:11 am reneefishman: @aellislegal #lawjobchat tip to Jr associates: give at least 5 min to every recruiter who calls. Build rltnshps now & they will pay off
2:12 am richard_russeth: @reneefishman @aellislegal I say talk to them as long as they want to stay on the line… #lawjobchat
2:12 am tweetmcg: @aellislegal @richard_russeth @jcasalmir thanks for the great #lawjobchat #ff
2:13 am BriHoffman: @richard_russeth thanks. i’m excited, i start next week. working at Legg Mason for their CCO in mutual fund compliance! #lawjobchat #inhouse
2:14 am richard_russeth: Signing off here. Have a great night everyone. #goodnightmoon #lawjobchat
2:14 am jcasalmir: @richard_russeth true, but if you’re bored, it’s a win-win to proactively seek out interesting work since budgets are tight. #lawjobchat
2:16 am drewcarls: @richard_russeth @aellislegal enjoyed the convo tonight. great stuff to pass along to @utexaslawstudents & @utlawcso #lawjobchat
2:19 am t10nbaum: RT @reneefishman: @aellislegal #lawjobchat tip to Jr associates: give at least 5 min to every recruiter who calls. Build rltnshps now & they will pay off
2:25 am BriHoffman: @richard_russeth thanks for the follow! i’ll try to catch the next #lawjobchat
2:29 am aellislegal: @jcasalmir THANK YOU for participating in #LawJobChat tonight! I’m now following you – would love to include you as guest in future chat
2:34 am aellislegal: Transcript from 8/26 #LawJobChat w/@richard_russeth re landing in-house law jobs!http://bit.ly/9NneJA